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you had paul ryan embracing the across the board tax cut mitt romney is running on. he was pressed by martha, who did an excellent job exactly specifically you do to pay for that tax cut, totally evaded that. what happened was as happened on other issues, joe biden got frustrated. you saw biden, he variously was laughing, smiling, got angry at times. i think there were times at which that demeanor did not serve him well. ryan did not get flustered. did have some republican political strategists who i talked to during the debate thought ryan looked a little bit smug at times. ryan, of course, is young, he has to worry about looking like the junior varsity against the older guy. bottom line, i don't think anybody dominated the debate but i thought ryan did well and i think basically what we've done is set the table for the debate next week with obama and romney. that is going to determine what the next pivot in this race is. >> john, just to bring up a couple of points. we did have an informal poll on cnbc, about 3,000 people wrote in, based on what they have been writ
you had paul ryan embracing the across the board tax cut mitt romney is running on. he was pressed by martha, who did an excellent job exactly specifically you do to pay for that tax cut, totally evaded that. what happened was as happened on other issues, joe biden got frustrated. you saw biden, he variously was laughing, smiling, got angry at times. i think there were times at which that demeanor did not serve him well. ryan did not get flustered. did have some republican political strategists...
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governor romney, the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> congressman ryan? >> we mourn the loss of these four americans who were murdered. when you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks, they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a youtube video. it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. he went to the u.n. and in his speech at the u.n. he said six times he talked about the youtube video. look, if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it is, a terrorist attack. our ambassador in paris has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place where we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troubling by the day. first blame the youtube video and now trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. with respect to iraq we have the same position before the withdraw which was we agreed with the obama administration, let's have a force agreement t
governor romney, the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> congressman ryan? >> we mourn the loss of these four americans who were murdered. when you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks, they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a youtube video. it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. he went to the u.n. and in his speech at the u.n. he said six times he talked...
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how ryan prepped for the big night, and what are the main goals for romney and ryan's camp? what are they, and what do they want to say? let's go to robert costa from the national review online danville, cnbc contributor. the debate sunday way. bob costa as you talked to the romney/ryan people today, what phrases jump out? what do you think he wants to get across in at least a minimal way? >> they want to defend mitt romney's positions. they want to go after the obama economic record and reach out to new voters, especially view the voters who may find ryan appealing >> i keep talking about this youth thing. i think what ryan represents as a well-informed smart 42-year-old guy and does his body crunches and listens to music on his ipod and so forth, i think that's a tremendous plus for romney, i really do. there's his picture up there. i think, you know, the youth vote is shifting to romney. it's not going to be like it was in 2008. >> that's exactly right, larry. one thing the ryan camp has pushed hard for is to have this debate be a sit-down debate and once he sits down at
how ryan prepped for the big night, and what are the main goals for romney and ryan's camp? what are they, and what do they want to say? let's go to robert costa from the national review online danville, cnbc contributor. the debate sunday way. bob costa as you talked to the romney/ryan people today, what phrases jump out? what do you think he wants to get across in at least a minimal way? >> they want to defend mitt romney's positions. they want to go after the obama economic record and...
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ryan has the romney plan to lower tax rates and cap deductions. do you think they're going to go at it? is it better to raise taxes or lower them to improve the economy? are we going to see that picture tonight? >> i think you will. i think you'll see a renewal of the theme if you let these individual tax rates soar up you're also clobering that small, medium-sized entrepreneur who's really a job creation engine. a quarter of all those jobs are in the hands of those folks and they're reacting negatively to the threat of higher taxes. it's one of the reasons that we've seen i think this confidence and lack of uncertainty suffer out there. in other words, people just don't know. we don't actually, larry, have a tax code really. 60 some provisions expired at the end of 2011, 40 some more are expiring this year. thog is known, nothing is certain and that's part of that big looming fiscal cliff that needs tore cleared up. paul ryan has a plan to do that. >> john harwood? >> governor engler, i just want to ask you about two economic issues. one national
ryan has the romney plan to lower tax rates and cap deductions. do you think they're going to go at it? is it better to raise taxes or lower them to improve the economy? are we going to see that picture tonight? >> i think you will. i think you'll see a renewal of the theme if you let these individual tax rates soar up you're also clobering that small, medium-sized entrepreneur who's really a job creation engine. a quarter of all those jobs are in the hands of those folks and they're...
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making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but i've got to say joe biden said the intelligence didn't tell them anything. the state department knew in real time that this had nothing to do with spontaneous protests about the video. that's point number one. point number two, biden said last night that he did not know or that there was no request from the state department for extra security in the benghazi consulate. the reality is, we have all learned, they made not one, not two, but five requests for additional security which were all turned down at the white house and the national security council. biden -- i think you and jennifer raise a lot of good points that absolutely should be checked in days to come, but you know, larry, you have to check both sides. i didn't like your introduction. we'll check biden's lies and it's lefshlgity mat to fact check and let's not call people liars. >> look at what the obama administration has done. >> it's three against one so give me fair time. >>
making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but i've got to say joe biden said the intelligence didn't tell them anything. the state department knew in real time that this had nothing to do with spontaneous protests about the video. that's point number one. point number two, biden said last night that he did not know or that there was no request from the state department for extra security in the benghazi consulate....
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i know congressman ryan, watched his career and watched governor romney what he's been able to do, a guy who can fix it, thinks about things, can negotiate very strongly. he can bring two sides together to get a solution. >> obama argues -- let's look at the obama side for a minute. obama makes the case that he, obama, can make a fair deal with congress. when he's going to do this, i don't know because he had a chance to do it last year and he failed to do it. obama's argument, just to get your take on it, a fair deal means raising tax rates on the most successful earners and small business people and somehow that will balance off spending cuts or entitlement reform we don't know about. >> frankly, larry, i've never seen -- i've spent my whole life dealing with economics and economic issues. unless we get back to lowering our rates and maybe taking way the exemptions people like me have and enjoy, i'm willing to give this all up for a slightly lower rate for everybody and expand the base of people who contribute to the u.s. government. >> so you buy the romney tax reform plan but you
i know congressman ryan, watched his career and watched governor romney what he's been able to do, a guy who can fix it, thinks about things, can negotiate very strongly. he can bring two sides together to get a solution. >> obama argues -- let's look at the obama side for a minute. obama makes the case that he, obama, can make a fair deal with congress. when he's going to do this, i don't know because he had a chance to do it last year and he failed to do it. obama's argument, just to...
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on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy experience at all. >> i'm waiting for joe biden appear par thid division of iraq. it's not true. ryan has made had trips abroad including the middle east. >> they did fund-raiser abroad, too. >> i didn't know that. >> they did in london. >> i think joe biden will be very formidable. i think the challenge for paul ryan in the debate is he has to come across in complete control of the facts. when you see a 27-age year difference between these two, it's very easy for a young person like ryan to get schooled by the senior biden. he can't let that happen. at the same time he's got to be respectful
on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy...
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>> well, governor romney and paul ryan, like i said, have laid out a plan, not just to bring spending under control, but to reform our tax code, get people working again. because with more people in the work force, we'll be able to generate more income and that will be more money coming in. as you know, right now with 23 million americans struggling for work, many of those underemployed, they can't get good jobs. the amount of income we need just isn't coming in. >> yeah. but what i hear you saying is that it's going to be on your terms from your plan. it's not going to be in any way trying to embrace a revamped simpson/bowles. we know the congressman was on that commission and voted against it. i mean, the campaign is not warming up to it in any way now that we have the business community involved, are they? >> you know, governor romney has said good things about simpson/bowles in the past. but, again, he has his own plan. and his plan is going to get 12 million americans back to work. >> andrea, it's going to get a lot more interesting, look forward to the debate number two at hofst
>> well, governor romney and paul ryan, like i said, have laid out a plan, not just to bring spending under control, but to reform our tax code, get people working again. because with more people in the work force, we'll be able to generate more income and that will be more money coming in. as you know, right now with 23 million americans struggling for work, many of those underemployed, they can't get good jobs. the amount of income we need just isn't coming in. >> yeah. but what i...
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he did attack the romney/ryan ticket, but wasn't really able to take any credit for any achievements because there haven't been any. on the libyan situation, he was really embarrassing because he contradicted not just the department of state, but he really threw the intelligence community under the bus using them as a defense for what has been a coverup of a terrorist attack on 9/11. >> julian, do you want to get in here? >> yeah, let me respond. first of all, i think that the polls have moved a little bit in places like florida, not substantially enough in ohio, pennsylvania, michigan. secondly, i think -- >> in ohio, it's one point difference. >> excuse me, bor. why obama ought to get four years. when obama came into office, we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. we're now gaining somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000. gdp was at negative 9, we're close to positive 2. that's an 11 point positive swing. about a million positive swing in jobs per month since he took office. on foreign affair, bin laden is gone, troops are coming out of iraq, troops are coming out of afghanistan. gadhaf
he did attack the romney/ryan ticket, but wasn't really able to take any credit for any achievements because there haven't been any. on the libyan situation, he was really embarrassing because he contradicted not just the department of state, but he really threw the intelligence community under the bus using them as a defense for what has been a coverup of a terrorist attack on 9/11. >> julian, do you want to get in here? >> yeah, let me respond. first of all, i think that the polls...
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>> i think if paul ryan can stepped the good will that mitt romney brought to the ticket, if he can arctic could you what the a vision for the future that middle class americans look to republicans as the party of new ideas aunts the party that will get them back -- the economy back working and put people back to work, i think that having a two week period in mid october where you have momentum is critical in politics. so i think it could be a game changer for republicans. at the end of the day, though, the remaining two presidential debates are really what will be determinative of this election. >> penny, i said earlier this week what do you get from a vapd shal debate. how much does it really hear. >> it's a critical time that we're at. we're about three weeks out and what we saw last week was a real momentum shift and we did start to see the consolidation of many polls. we started to see some of the newspapers come away from the president. so this is a key and critical moment again to recapture that momentum. going into last week's debate, the momentum definitely was on the democratic s
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and would it end, therefore, if romney and ryan win the white house? very good questions. let's bring in a guy that can hope pli provide sofully provid josh brown. you made a big call on credit card companies a few months ago on "street signs." you still own visa and you still think it is a good buy. why? >> yeah. visa and mastercard both have something that is really hard to come by these days, which is a secular growth story that really doesn't get interrupted regardless of what happens with the economy. look around. people are paying for things with credit cards and debit card more and more and that's not going to go the other way regardless of consumer spending ebbing and flowing with the cyclical economies. >> regardless of who is in the white house? back to our original story? >> correct. look, biden is from delaware. that's a very popular state for credit card business. biden's son works at mbna. biden fought the bankruptcy rules where people were going to get off the hook. he took the/carr compani credit companies' side. nobody should be surprised. but i don't thin
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paul ryan there today. it is probably a couple-point edge for obama, but it could go either way. >> these things are all sort of within the margins of error and what was a tight race has gotten even tighter. mr. hohman, thank you. >>> the most powerful person right now working to fix that looming fiscal cliff is someone you probably have never heard of. cnbc's eamon javers is live in washington, d.c. with more on this. who is the mystery woman, eamon? >> hi, sue. she's katherine wilde, the head of the partnership for new york city. she is not necessarily a household name, but she he hosting some important meetings up in new york city between business leaders and political leaders. because of her convening power she's been able to bring together an astonishing list of folks. look at some of the political figures that she has brought to her table just over the past two years, including treasury secretary tim geithner, house democratic leader nancy pelosi, senator rob portman, eric cantor, erskine bowles, alan
paul ryan there today. it is probably a couple-point edge for obama, but it could go either way. >> these things are all sort of within the margins of error and what was a tight race has gotten even tighter. mr. hohman, thank you. >>> the most powerful person right now working to fix that looming fiscal cliff is someone you probably have never heard of. cnbc's eamon javers is live in washington, d.c. with more on this. who is the mystery woman, eamon? >> hi, sue. she's...
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has gained. >> well, melissa, undoubtedly, as we all know, the momentum has gone with the romney-ryan camp. sure. you look at both of these gentlemen, they've both been in the political cal scescene for time. most of us have already formed an opinion of vice president biden. four years working with president obama. two presidential campaigns and 40 years in washington. i think we have an understanding of who joe biden is and what he stands for. on the other side of the equation, i'm personally excited to see congressman ryan tonight. he's a smart guy. he's in command of details. i am very hopeful that he will be able to carry forth the momentum that the romney campaign got out of the first presidential debate. >> how do you think he should play that? because the lead article in the "washington post" today notes how -- an emphasis in tone governor romney is tracking to the center for obvious reasons as we get closer to the vote. do you think ryan should do the same or double down on his conservative heritage for what that could do to get the vote out on the gop side? >> simon, i think
has gained. >> well, melissa, undoubtedly, as we all know, the momentum has gone with the romney-ryan camp. sure. you look at both of these gentlemen, they've both been in the political cal scescene for time. most of us have already formed an opinion of vice president biden. four years working with president obama. two presidential campaigns and 40 years in washington. i think we have an understanding of who joe biden is and what he stands for. on the other side of the equation, i'm...
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and, of course, the romney campaign emphasizing that paul ryan is a guy who hasn't had a debate, maybe since high school. so he's debating against joe biden. >> debated -- we've tried to debate ryan here and we've seen him debate with other people, and he's -- i don't know. >> eamon, what about ohio, though? we've talked with chuck todd about this. he sees a way to win without ohio. but basically have to win eight or nine other states. so it's a much more complicated road to the white house if you don't win ohio. so he had said -- he told us a week or two ago that romney would have to make a decision as to whether the pull out of ohio and go for the other states. >> on a couple of polls. >> yeah, it's off the table at this point. >> that's got to be off the table right now. ohio is the linchpin for everything in this campaign. that's why the president was there yesterday. you saw the president leading in o-h-i-o cheer. he needs the college kids to come through for him. he needs the urban cities in ohio to turn out with big, big numbers. otherwise this thing gets very tricky for the pre
and, of course, the romney campaign emphasizing that paul ryan is a guy who hasn't had a debate, maybe since high school. so he's debating against joe biden. >> debated -- we've tried to debate ryan here and we've seen him debate with other people, and he's -- i don't know. >> eamon, what about ohio, though? we've talked with chuck todd about this. he sees a way to win without ohio. but basically have to win eight or nine other states. so it's a much more complicated road to the...
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and candidate ryan, what would you want them to say? what would you advise them to say? what do you want to hear from the candidates in your own party when it comes to this issue? >> i think romney's right on track when he starts to say i know how to govern. and you govern by talking with the other side. and when he said during the debate that he was the
and candidate ryan, what would you want them to say? what would you advise them to say? what do you want to hear from the candidates in your own party when it comes to this issue? >> i think romney's right on track when he starts to say i know how to govern. and you govern by talking with the other side. and when he said during the debate that he was the
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congressman ryan and vice president biden, just like president obama and governor romney, have really, there's really stark differences in this campaign about what's going to go forward. if you just watch the republican convention and the democratic conventi convention, there's very different views of the future of the country so how that gets discussed will depend a lot on all three players on the stage, but i think the main thing is there are stark differences going forward and congressman ryan i think is obviously a very smart person, 14 years as a member of congress, i think probably the leading spokesperson for the republican party on budget and economic issues, he spent a lot of time in congress and one thing he learned in congress is how to debate. you debate in the committees, you debate on the floor, so he's going to be a formidable challenge and i think he and vice president biden have enough differences and reflect the differences of the campaign that it will be a very i think substantive debate, i think it will be a very fun debate though. >> ted, i was surprised at the fi
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i think that paul ryan's youth really makes a positive impression, for the younger voters that romney needs but just in general. the contrast between ryan and biden is going to be enormous. >> well, particularly after the string of gaffes that we've seen from biden. he is sort of like the doddering old uncle you keep hidden away in the closet. but he's going to come out swinging and he's going to come out with a lot of one-liners. he might to bring in the personal side like he did against palin. but this entire campaign has shifted. it's very focused right now on ideas, on the defense of the ideas, bold ideas, as romney articulated last week. he changed the whole narrative. the obama campaign's effort to undermine it by these silly attacks, republicans can't stand young people, they want to kick them off their parents' health care, they want to go after women, the war on women. and now the new option, they're going after big bird, oh, my gosh. it's silly. >> when paul ryan says that the fullest extent of his experience in foreign policy is that he's voted to send people to war, when y
i think that paul ryan's youth really makes a positive impression, for the younger voters that romney needs but just in general. the contrast between ryan and biden is going to be enormous. >> well, particularly after the string of gaffes that we've seen from biden. he is sort of like the doddering old uncle you keep hidden away in the closet. but he's going to come out swinging and he's going to come out with a lot of one-liners. he might to bring in the personal side like he did against...
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and ryan are doing at them. and that tees it up for the debate at hofstra last week. >> and i even likened to like the world cup, remember you got the two teams in the finals and then the guys they beat they play in that game for -- i mean, this was interesting, but it just sets up the next debate to see how the president comes back. >> tuesday night. so this comes very quickly. >> and i watched intrade, it moved up a little. and then all the way back to where it started. >> it's exactly the way the reds are set up for the next round of the playoffs. >> you know, john, here's the thing. they did lose three straight, i'll and i had plit thdmit that. but after spotting them six runs on that grand slam, they battled back. and in the sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth, they had the tying run at home every inning. one inning they had a man on first and second, no outs, the count 3-2, a bad call, they threw the guy out at third. we can't talk -- anyway, i'm not going to obsess over this. >> pain. >> did you catch the ja
and ryan are doing at them. and that tees it up for the debate at hofstra last week. >> and i even likened to like the world cup, remember you got the two teams in the finals and then the guys they beat they play in that game for -- i mean, this was interesting, but it just sets up the next debate to see how the president comes back. >> tuesday night. so this comes very quickly. >> and i watched intrade, it moved up a little. and then all the way back to where it started....
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this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this point even though obama still has a slight advantage in the battleground states this race can go either way. >> interesting. then we got the governor, of course, speaking at vmi about foreign policy, an area for which a little while he appeared to want to take the campaign, at least before the debate. how ground moving is this? >> reporter: i don't think it's very ground moving. it's not what people will vote on. for romney it's an effort to press a leadership advantage which may be one of the things that move the numbers for him after the debate. he looks strong on the stage with
this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this...
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. >> -- governor romney changed his position in that debate radically. first of all he said he would sign the ryan budget which has a 20% tax cut across the board for everybody including the richest americans. number two he never explained and the president didn't call him on it how he'll account for that almost $5 trillion cut, plus the $2 trillion in military spending that they advocate which the defense department and the generals haven't even asked for. there's been no explanation of that and that's a pretty important issue. the president didn't do a good job framing that issue. there's no question. >> you're such a savvy politician. you're the best, and you know, if you lose a game and say well the other guy cheated that makes you look bad. there's no upside to that. you should be advising his people that's not the way to do this. >> and joe, one other thing i want to say, i think jim realized this, i was around for the, president reagan's first re-election debate, you recall he gave a terrible performance, he wandered in his closing, almost looked
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. >> the first two debates were paul ryan, mitt romney. the numbers that i have have shown a significant movement in the senior vote, but we're also, you know -- look, since 1952 dwight eisenhower there have been 15 presidential elections. democrats have won four. each one of those four johnson, carter, clinton, and obama have been won by people who eventually won the election. in florida he is behind. i mean, obama. if he is behind in florida, according to florida history, he is not going to win the general election. >> let's get this straight on medicare. the $700 billion plus that al and other republicans speak about coming out of medicare just so all of florida seniors knows, that's coming out of insurance companies and providers who are charging too much. >> providers are -- but, okay, let me just -- i don't want to get into the weeds on this number because nobody ever comes to an agreement on it, but a provider is a doctor, and what we know is that those folks on medicare have to struggle sometimes to find a doctor who will accept me
. >> the first two debates were paul ryan, mitt romney. the numbers that i have have shown a significant movement in the senior vote, but we're also, you know -- look, since 1952 dwight eisenhower there have been 15 presidential elections. democrats have won four. each one of those four johnson, carter, clinton, and obama have been won by people who eventually won the election. in florida he is behind. i mean, obama. if he is behind in florida, according to florida history, he is not...
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he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure those chemical weapons. they are right about that, but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents in syria. we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer, and we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they are still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq. >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar al assad and by the way if we had the status forces agreement that the vice president said he'd bet his vice presidency on in iraq we'd probably be able to achieve that but he failed to achieve that again. >> >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the g
he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure those chemical weapons. they are right about that, but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents in syria. we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer, and we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about...
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he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure chemical weapons. they are right about that. what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters. we should not have called assaad -- >> we should not wait for russia to give us the green light. they are still arming the man. iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the gr
he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure chemical weapons. they are right about that. what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters. we should not have called assaad -- >> we should not wait for russia to give us the green light. they are still arming the man. iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and...
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unfortunately, the burden is on romney and ryan. we already know what to expect with biden and with obama. but unfortunately, romney and ryan have the burden to say we can change the trajectory of the conversation of what's going on in the country and do it well, and that didn't happen with clarity and conviction last night. >> i half agree with carol on that point. but the other part of the equation -- >> i don't think you can agree with that point, because the only poll i have seen about undecided was done by any major network was cbs and it was pretty clear who won the debate amongst uncommitted voters, ryan 31%, biden 50%. he smashed him which was my reading of it in the moment. >> look, people are voting right now in ohio. so if you've made up your mind in ohio and you watched last night's debate, you were energized and went out to the polls and voted, that makes an impact on the election. governor romney can't win without ohio. there are, there is a narrow sliver of voters that are still in play in some of these states. i thin
unfortunately, the burden is on romney and ryan. we already know what to expect with biden and with obama. but unfortunately, romney and ryan have the burden to say we can change the trajectory of the conversation of what's going on in the country and do it well, and that didn't happen with clarity and conviction last night. >> i half agree with carol on that point. but the other part of the equation -- >> i don't think you can agree with that point, because the only poll i have...
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paul ryan came in, had to defend mitt romney. had to prove he was president. god forbid if he was president. there wasn't a wipeout in this debate. both sides came in, thinking we'll leave prosecute what we have to do. >> let's go to our panelist, joe biden. >> show me a policy where you take responsibility. by the way, the great recession, it fell out of the sky it came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card and put a preskrichgs drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. >> a quick takeaway. >> i think joe biden did do his boss a lot of help tonight. on substance, i think it was a draw. each side will draw a lot of encouragement from it. on style, i think paul ryan won the debate. and that is, the biden, the dismissive laughs, shouting, interruptions, ryan was calmer and more presidential on style, not substance. on substance, i thought it was a draw. >> it was condescending to paul ryan and i could have done with a lot less eye rolling and chuckling on the part of joe biden. however, i thought it was a gr
paul ryan came in, had to defend mitt romney. had to prove he was president. god forbid if he was president. there wasn't a wipeout in this debate. both sides came in, thinking we'll leave prosecute what we have to do. >> let's go to our panelist, joe biden. >> show me a policy where you take responsibility. by the way, the great recession, it fell out of the sky it came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card and put a preskrichgs drug benefit on the credit card, a...
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look, he mentioned the reset -- >> what would romney-ryan do? >> we agree with the same red line they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in other than to secure those chemical weapons. they're right about that. but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer? >> what's your criteria -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about this. >> russia -- >> they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq -- >> and the opposition is being harmed. >> to help bashar assad. by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iran, we probably could have prevented that, but he failed to achieve that as well. >> let me ask you quickly what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian interests? >>
look, he mentioned the reset -- >> what would romney-ryan do? >> we agree with the same red line they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in other than to secure those chemical weapons. they're right about that. but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer? >> what's your criteria -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the...
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the idea in general is to tie governor mitt romney -- sorry, tie governor romney to the ryan budget. and as one top democrat put it to me, the idea is to make the case that romney/ryan in electing that ticket means americans would be electing the intellectual leader of the house republicans, as one person put it, that paul ryan is the intellectual leader of the house republicans and he should not be able tonight to duck from any specifics. so, again, we will hear that word, specifics. and look for the vice president to try to get paul ryan to talk about budget details in this debate tonight, wolf. >> jessica, has the vice president done his tour of the actual debate hall yet? >> reporter: he has. he did that tour a little earlier today before 2:00 p.m. he sat in the chair. he looked at the monitor where you get your time cues. and i'm told all that went smoothly. he also before he boarded the plane today leaving from delaware he talked to reporters and he was asked what is his strategy. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm looking forward to it. nice of you guys to be here. are you
the idea in general is to tie governor mitt romney -- sorry, tie governor romney to the ryan budget. and as one top democrat put it to me, the idea is to make the case that romney/ryan in electing that ticket means americans would be electing the intellectual leader of the house republicans, as one person put it, that paul ryan is the intellectual leader of the house republicans and he should not be able tonight to duck from any specifics. so, again, we will hear that word, specifics. and look...
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this is where the romney ryan campaign is sort of setting up. they're doing a lot of live interviews from here on the other side of the room just doing this very quickly. the obama campaign. you can see the forward sign behind me. wolf, i had one of these behind me earlier this afternoon, we heard from the romney campaign, hey, do we have to have that sign behind you? just to show you how conscious of the optics they are even when the media is doing their live shots. >> thanks very much for that. the debate is a good reminder that the men vying for the number two job might wind up being president some day. both joe biden and paul ryan tell voters the truth. what's going on. we're going to find out more now from john berman. you've been checking the chams. what are you finding out? >> the candidates continue to war on taxes with paul ryan claiming that president obama wants not just to raise them on small businesses, but to put them over 40%. >> what president obama wants to do is raise the top tax rate on our successful small businesses and manu
this is where the romney ryan campaign is sort of setting up. they're doing a lot of live interviews from here on the other side of the room just doing this very quickly. the obama campaign. you can see the forward sign behind me. wolf, i had one of these behind me earlier this afternoon, we heard from the romney campaign, hey, do we have to have that sign behind you? just to show you how conscious of the optics they are even when the media is doing their live shots. >> thanks very much...
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poll after poll shows momentum building behind the romney/ryan tukt and there's pressure on the president now to wrap up his game for the three-week sprint to election day. let's bring in our correspondent, we're getting reaction to the vice presidential debate, more comments coming in. but the president has his mission cut out for him right now. dan? >> he really does. we just have to look back to right after the debate where the president turned up his volume, strongly aggressively going after his gop opponents. but what we saw this week at the university of miami on thursday at a big rally there was the president even turning up the volume a bit more. attacking mitt romney for what the president says was his changing position on a whole host of issues, including taxes. take a listen. >> he's trying to go through an extreme makeover. after running for more than a year in which he called himself severely conservative, mitt romney is trying to convince you that he was severely kidding. >> i was talking to a senior campaign official about the tone of the president's rally and this official
poll after poll shows momentum building behind the romney/ryan tukt and there's pressure on the president now to wrap up his game for the three-week sprint to election day. let's bring in our correspondent, we're getting reaction to the vice presidential debate, more comments coming in. but the president has his mission cut out for him right now. dan? >> he really does. we just have to look back to right after the debate where the president turned up his volume, strongly aggressively...
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mitt romney is trying to and paul ryan doing this, trying to hide their positions. they want to go on national tv and debates with big audiences and pretend they haven't taken these stances but i think the american people need to understand, you know, there is a man behind the curtain and we do need to pay attention to that person because that's mitt romney. that's the real mitt romney. that's the mitt romney that's proposed all of these things. and people need to understand what it means for their lives for middle class families, the taxes go up. for people like mitt romney, their taxes go down. it's a theory that's not going to create jobs in the country. >> robert, thanks very much for coming in. >> thanks, wolf. >> robert begins from the obama campaign. kate baldwin is here, as well. we got a very different perspective than the last hour. >> i was just going to say that. i think we are getting -- at least seeing some of the lines of attack to see tomorrow night, something. >> setting the stage for the debate. >> that's absolutely right. just to remind our viewer
mitt romney is trying to and paul ryan doing this, trying to hide their positions. they want to go on national tv and debates with big audiences and pretend they haven't taken these stances but i think the american people need to understand, you know, there is a man behind the curtain and we do need to pay attention to that person because that's mitt romney. that's the real mitt romney. that's the mitt romney that's proposed all of these things. and people need to understand what it means for...
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we also have jim acosta covering team romney and today team ryan. we'll check in with jim acosta on the ground in danville right after this. >>> the debate before the debate. we're about to show you what each candidate will probably say tonight in his own words. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. some critics blasting tonight's moderator for her ties to president obama. former debate moderator carol simpson joins me live on whether it should matter. >>> plus, when afghanistan comes up tonight, so will insider attacks. i'll talk with a combat medic whose chilling memories reveal green on blue is nothing new. >>> i see bloody handprints on walls thinking, my god, is that my son's? i don't know if he was shot. i don't know -- i don't know. they haven't told me anything. >> the mother of an american killed in the benghazi attack accuses the obama administration of lying to her. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyon
we also have jim acosta covering team romney and today team ryan. we'll check in with jim acosta on the ground in danville right after this. >>> the debate before the debate. we're about to show you what each candidate will probably say tonight in his own words. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. some critics blasting tonight's moderator for her ties to president obama. former debate moderator carol simpson joins me live on whether it should matter. >>> plus, when...
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what can romney learn or not learn from paul ryan? we focused so much on the president's awful performance, what does mitt romney need to change if anything? >> i think most of what romney needs to change just has to do with the format, right? you're going to be in a situation where both obama and romney are trying to sort of connect and sell themselves both to the audience at home but also to the people they're talking to in the room. and that's a completely different situation from the first debate. so romney i think overall most people would say, you know, romney overall had a better debate than ryan did. i thought ryan was fine. >> those who were watching. >> cleared the bar and so on. i don't think romney looks at the ryan performance and says i need to model myself after that. i think ryan was very clearly just trying to sort of establish, you know, sort of keep the momentum going. deliver a sort of solid calibrated performance and not give the democrats some big sound bite that they could latch onto. >> in fact, he did give the
what can romney learn or not learn from paul ryan? we focused so much on the president's awful performance, what does mitt romney need to change if anything? >> i think most of what romney needs to change just has to do with the format, right? you're going to be in a situation where both obama and romney are trying to sort of connect and sell themselves both to the audience at home but also to the people they're talking to in the room. and that's a completely different situation from the...
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never mind an overhaul, so mitt romney and paul ryan need to get more specific. robert reich served as secretary as labor, mark mckinnon advised the clinton campaign. chris christie is a well-known romney surrogate. i remember when he was running for governor of new jersey and a lot of people thought there's no way he can win. i'm not going to tell you what i'm going to cut. i'm going the get the list, get in office and do it. he won and "the new york times" wrote voters embrace d mr. christie, though he offered no detail on how he would fix the state's problems. can this strategy work for mitt romney when it comes to his tax plan? >> well, first of all, as the cofounder of no labels, i like the idea of bringing the congress together and to negotiate bringing these solutions together with the president involved. now, that said, there are realities. i think bold solutions are required. now, i'm not an economist and having me talk about tax policy is like having paris hilton explain -- >> that's rather aggressive analogy, by the way. keep going. >> well, they laid
never mind an overhaul, so mitt romney and paul ryan need to get more specific. robert reich served as secretary as labor, mark mckinnon advised the clinton campaign. chris christie is a well-known romney surrogate. i remember when he was running for governor of new jersey and a lot of people thought there's no way he can win. i'm not going to tell you what i'm going to cut. i'm going the get the list, get in office and do it. he won and "the new york times" wrote voters embrace d mr....
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plus, paul ryan blames mitt romney's tax plan adds up. even says it's been done before. a fact check coming up. >>> and a teenage girl bullied posted a desperate cry on the internet. just a month later, she's dead. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. nature valley trail mix bars are made with real ingredients you can see. like whole roasted nuts, chewy granola, and real fruit. nature valley trail mix bars. 100% natural. 100% delicious. [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multi-vitamin designed for men's health con
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he covers romney and ryan on a day-to-day basis. i guess maybe he was a little bit lowering expectations, although the pressure is certainly going to be on paul ryan in that thursday night debate against joe biden, jim. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. and i think you heard mitt romney say just before that clip that joe biden has been in a whole number of debates. in excess of, i think, a dozen. i think he's had 15 to 18 debates over the years, and then went ton to say paul ryan, that may be his first debate. i'm not sure. we would have to go back and check, but i would be amazed if paul ryan had not done any debates during his congressional years over there in congress. and just to pick up on what you're talking about just before the break a few minutes ago, about those loopholes and deductions, wolf. i can tell you that i think that your interview there made some news on that front, because what we've heard mitt romney say that he would help, that he would pay for those tax cuts in part through what he called a, quote, additional
he covers romney and ryan on a day-to-day basis. i guess maybe he was a little bit lowering expectations, although the pressure is certainly going to be on paul ryan in that thursday night debate against joe biden, jim. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. and i think you heard mitt romney say just before that clip that joe biden has been in a whole number of debates. in excess of, i think, a dozen. i think he's had 15 to 18 debates over the years, and then went ton to say paul ryan, that may...
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and that's exactly the romney/ryan budget does. itzhaks it to the middle class and seniors, in order to give these tax breaks to very wealthy people. >> what do you think of the job martha raddatz did? >> i think she did a very good job. never made herself the center of the debate. >> she started off very strong with benghazi. want to play a little bit about what the vice president said about security in benghazi. >> well, we weren't told we want more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> explain that to me. a lot of the testimony was, in fact, the, the, the government did know. that, that, that the state department was well aware that there were requests for security. doesn't that completely contradict exactly what we just saw in i think it was wednesday's testimony? >> what the vice president is saying is that he and the president didn't know. this information had been communicated, at least according to the hearings, to the diplomatic security folks at the state department, and some others. but it wasn't commun
and that's exactly the romney/ryan budget does. itzhaks it to the middle class and seniors, in order to give these tax breaks to very wealthy people. >> what do you think of the job martha raddatz did? >> i think she did a very good job. never made herself the center of the debate. >> she started off very strong with benghazi. want to play a little bit about what the vice president said about security in benghazi. >> well, we weren't told we want more security. we did...
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it's become a focal point for the ryan/romney campaign. darrell issa was on "real time with bill maher" last night and he did not know about requests for more security. >> when vice president biden says, we didn't know about their need for more security in libya, he's only talking about the president and the vice president because, as it turns out, he doesn't hear what his own people say at the state department and all up and down sworn testimony. >> issa is the chairman of the house overnight committee that is investigating the libya tragedy, but "new york times" reports that biden and the president probably did not know about the security requests. they were handled at the state department. "the times" also reports that those requests were largely for tripoli and not for benghazi. >>> earlier i was talking about ohio and where it stands in the presidential race. mitt romney is there today, but the really big political event is coming up on thursday. ♪ >> that's when bruce springsteen, the boss and, bill clinton appeared on stage togeth
it's become a focal point for the ryan/romney campaign. darrell issa was on "real time with bill maher" last night and he did not know about requests for more security. >> when vice president biden says, we didn't know about their need for more security in libya, he's only talking about the president and the vice president because, as it turns out, he doesn't hear what his own people say at the state department and all up and down sworn testimony. >> issa is the chairman...
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the contrast was striking on substance, where congressman ryan, laid out a plan, governor romney wanted to pursue the next four years. laid out what has happened over the last four years, the president and vice president tonight couldn't articulate what happened, no really explanation. no rationale for the next four years, so on content, a real choice between ryan and biden, and on demeanor, again, was struck by the contrast in demeanor. >> thank you very much. appreciate your time. wolf, i've been talking to several republicans tonight in this room and feel like this was essentially a draw. i haven't heard a whole lot of people saying to me private that will paul ryan won the debate outright. but in their minds, a draw is enough to live to fight another day and not change the momentum of the race. >> i think that's becoming more and more obvious. the republicans were reassured by ryan, democrats reassured by biden. and now another reality check on mitt romney's tax plan. >> they fought a lot about the romney tax plan. ryan said you could have 20% income tax rate cuts across the board,
the contrast was striking on substance, where congressman ryan, laid out a plan, governor romney wanted to pursue the next four years. laid out what has happened over the last four years, the president and vice president tonight couldn't articulate what happened, no really explanation. no rationale for the next four years, so on content, a real choice between ryan and biden, and on demeanor, again, was struck by the contrast in demeanor. >> thank you very much. appreciate your time. wolf,...
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what we hear from romney and ryan is no specifics whatsoever. the only specific they've given of something they'd cut is the cut to pbs, which is one ten thousandths of what we spend in the federal budget. >> a $4 trillion number, which was a $5 trillion number, has been debated a lot, and has been fact checked at times to say false, partly because there's not enough detail to figure it out. >> where those cuts are going to come forward. so we could do what bush did, expanding military spending, giving tax cuts to the wealthy. this is what romney wants to do. but he doesn't tell us how we're going to pay for it. he won't tell one specific loophole that he'll close. i'm not reflexively partisan. i want to see a substantiative analysis of details o of what your plan is. don't hide the ball like we had in law school. tell us the truth of what you're going to do. ryan used to do that when he was talking about the ryan budget. he put specifics in the ryan budget. scary to me, talking about privatizing social security, voucherizing medicare, but if th
what we hear from romney and ryan is no specifics whatsoever. the only specific they've given of something they'd cut is the cut to pbs, which is one ten thousandths of what we spend in the federal budget. >> a $4 trillion number, which was a $5 trillion number, has been debated a lot, and has been fact checked at times to say false, partly because there's not enough detail to figure it out. >> where those cuts are going to come forward. so we could do what bush did, expanding...
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now if you bring on the romney/ryan plan, the landscape is just the same. they have the same increase. they also want to reduce it by about 10%, but they want to rely on the private sector, not government, to get that done. in a word, they're going for vouchers. they don't like calling it vouchers but that's really what it is. right now if you're on medicare what happens is that the government pays medicare. medicare pays the hospital. the hospital takes care of you. under this plan, the government would pay you and you would decide if you wanted to buy into medicare or into private insurance that will create competition between the two and their theory and that is how you get at that very same waste that the white house wants to get out. these are two very complicated, huge programs. there are critics on both sides who say this plan won't work or that plan won't work or this plan will leave people strand or that plan will leave people stranded. the truth is, it is complicated. it's hard to deal with all of that. if we go to this basic claim that both sides
now if you bring on the romney/ryan plan, the landscape is just the same. they have the same increase. they also want to reduce it by about 10%, but they want to rely on the private sector, not government, to get that done. in a word, they're going for vouchers. they don't like calling it vouchers but that's really what it is. right now if you're on medicare what happens is that the government pays medicare. medicare pays the hospital. the hospital takes care of you. under this plan, the...
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that's what happened the middle of our day with ryan, when a pew research poll showed the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump out of the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest numbers. not everyone is ready to believe. >> the pew research poll shows romney in front now. do you think that poll's accurate? >> probably as accurate as any of them out there. >> reporter: you don't think there's a difference? >> no. >> reporter: this woman had one thought she very much wanted to express. >> i think the only poll that's going to count is the one on november 6th. >> reporter: you can argue with what many people here are saying, but you can't argue with that. gary tuchman, cnn, rochester, michigan. >> she's right about that poll. michigan is tightening, you saw from the polling at the top. ohio is tightening to
that's what happened the middle of our day with ryan, when a pew research poll showed the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump out of the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest...
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they first blamed the youtube video and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. >> so joining me now with their take on all of this, ben smith is the editor in chief of the content website buzz feed and then to his right in san francisco is cnn contributor and anchor of "real news," amy holmes. let me start with you, ben since you're sitting right beside me. that was a big issue and this has been a contentious debate and the white house has been taking it on the chin over what happened in libya, and it seemed to some that either the vice president wasn't sure of his semantics when he said we didn't know they needed more security or it seemed to others he knew that the white house didn't have that information right away, but it's all about the optics. how did they come off last night on this very critical foreign policy issue. >> that struck me as biden's worst moment, and i don't know if joe biden personally knew about barack obama, and there had been a h
they first blamed the youtube video and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. >> so joining me now with their take on all of this, ben smith is the editor in chief of the content website buzz feed and then to his right in san francisco is cnn contributor and anchor of "real news," amy holmes. let me start with you, ben since you're sitting...